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what is happening everybody

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thank you so much for joining us on this

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wonderful tuesday

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um we have an interesting show today

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it's

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uh different from the norm uh you know

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i feel like there's almost two camps in

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this ufo community which is

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nuts and bolts and

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and uh consciousness right

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but

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we

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are maybe gonna hit on something a

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little different maybe it includes all

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of them together maybe it doesn't um but

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it's i'm gonna cover history ancient

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archaeology mainly new england

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um as

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you know those of you who joined me

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yesterday i kind of teased a couple

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pictures

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um hopefully

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you enjoyed that

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um and jeffrey i gotta say i spoke with

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him for a little bit a couple times a

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little bit and he is just a fantastic

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person i feel especially now everybody

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just gets lost on twitter in the

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internet and they're they're little uh

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fights here and there

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and it's kind of you know meaningless

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and maybe sometimes we should uh just uh

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go outside take a walk go in the woods

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and you never know what you may find

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um hey megan how's it

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going uh i did not get a haircut i just

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um yeah i'm looking forward to uh

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getting this thing going i'm just gonna

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do a quick little um video intro here as

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you guys are familiar with me doing

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um and then we will

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um bring jeffrey on so hang out for one

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what's up yeah so um without further ado

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uh he's gonna be on the phone only just

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but he's got a very clear connection so

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so it should be great uh without further

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ado i am going to bring him in uh

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jeffrey how are you doing today

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i'm doing fine sean thank you

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good thanks so much for um joining us i

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do appreciate it you know my time spent

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with you so far has been a pleasure i

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expect this to be

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no less so

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yeah i mean interesting story how i

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found you i was just doing some

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um research online the famous google

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that everybody is so aware of

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find you but finally i did

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you know it looks like

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you know a very

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you know long story i'm sure made very

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but i hope you'll

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explain a little further you like to

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take walks in the woods and what you

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find in what you have seen and study

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um is kind of mind-blowing which is

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tied to ancient uh

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archaeology and civilizations

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um that's correct yeah do you want to

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give us uh some sort of overview in your

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it started out

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in childhood my interest in nature

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we grew up in the stone house

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as a young man i foraged the woods at

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about age nine to maybe 18

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their their parents

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foxes kings squirrels

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and i raised them i had a kind of a

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private zoo in the backyard we had seven

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it was a joy to uh

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befriend all these wild infant babies

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and raise them and have them bond to me

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had a pet crow that was a phenomenon he

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would come to his name and land on my

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well land and land on my bicycle

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and you keep going sorry about that oh

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that's okay and so then

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just nature

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an interest in poetry and put some of

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to poetic verse things i found things i

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in the woods of a good nature a

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spiritual nature

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then i joined an archaeology club called

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nera n-e-a-r-a

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permeating new england

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just kept me going further and further

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in finding standing stones

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realizing geez there's a pattern to all

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of these things

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there's a pattern to the rocks

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there's a pattern to

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how they're placed on the bedrock

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there's sub-stones under these boulders

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that how in the heck

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could a glacier have been so

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ingenious as to place these balance

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rocks dolmen if you will of what they

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call in europe we have more lithic

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structure here in new england than they

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do in europe i think well anyway that's

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that that's my opinion

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it it as ways lead on to way said robert

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and getting carried away with it in an

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obsessive compulsive kind of a fun way

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i've been there with different

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you know sorts of things

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um indeed but you know it seems healthy

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to be to be outside and to be

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you know kind of addicted to nature

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of all things that's not social

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no no it's uh it doesn't cost much

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uh it'll keep you in shape if you stick

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this is all about like how do these

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like i have one picture up right now

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it's com it's a huge rock

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how does that work

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okay well here's the fun part

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take that site that you see

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and i believe that's my friend of mine

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and arthur

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is a size reference as to the magnitude

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of that boulder

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a heavy concentration along our

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shoreline so going from new york

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this is the fun part

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as you keep questing for an answer you

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get more questions

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i really don't know

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who they were

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but i've nicknamed them the utopian

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because of their ability to move rock

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in new england that easily exceed

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multiple hundreds of thousands of miles

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of walls and there's no way the

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people stayed and everything

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there's a map that's available

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and i realized no way could the

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colonists have engineered all these

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wonderful road grades

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with the stones that were here

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they were nicknamed indian trails all

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some of that road system of

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have a number

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as to when they made these things

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the indians used the road grades and

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then the colonists

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used the road grades and now we today on

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back roads if you travel them

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we're using the same road system

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fascinating yeah that's that's

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incredible what do you think happened to

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like what happens to any

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we look at geez just about every single

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and we're growing exponentially out of

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control

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and something happened

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to many many civilizations in long ago

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it could it could be climate change like

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like we're feeling now it could be

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corruptive government

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like we have now i don't want to get

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onto that track

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but uh none the less

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we have a system

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that's uh fracturing

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and i think there's fractured yeah and

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they vanished into

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such a long ago time they left no

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but i suspect they had a technology in

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order to move all these rocks and

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engineer road systems

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now i pulled up this one picture for

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everybody and

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it's an entrance

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it's a clear

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made entrance to something what's that

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about

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okay

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they

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you're looking at a stone chamber

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and uh the outside

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is

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generally it faces a southerly direction

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or an easterly

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and

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they're earthen-covered

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man-made

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uh picture an igloo i guess this is

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about the best way i've come up with

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explaining them

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an igloo made of stone

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uh

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underground earthen covered

315
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so that it doesn't have a tunnel

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possibly but there are some that do

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and you enter it

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and it's its use has yet to be known

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many people have theories of what they

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were

321
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but some are so wet

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some lack

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a circulation of air so they were never

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a colonist root cellar

325
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if if you put your carrots parsnips and

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potatoes in there

327
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it's going to rot

328
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stone chambers have astronomical

329
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alignments many many many

330
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so that

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we get a sunrise

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with its eastern exposure

333
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the the opening and so you'd sit way in

334
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the back and watch the sunrise over some

335
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obscure

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alignment point that's

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some of that's been proven

338
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wow

339
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well

340
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who is doing that stuff you think

341
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they're aliens or what

342
00:14:58,150 --> 00:14:55,519
well

343
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there's a man who just passed away and

344
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he put me in his last book of 36 books

345
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and uh

346
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because of the advanced

347
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and because of the small entry holes

348
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these were not big people and i mean i

349
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don't know of were they of earth

350
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origins or were they of other origins i

351
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really do not have a solid answer

352
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but an alien

353
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is a possibility

354
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interesting you know is it did any of

355
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these rocks or stones have metal in them

356
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have you ever got like samples or

357
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i found only one that had some iron

358
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uh

359
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built into it

360
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in the interior ceiling

361
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these ceilings are made without mortar

362
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just about all of them i i've never seen

363
00:16:02,069 --> 00:16:01,120
any stone chamber built with concrete

364
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so

365
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these are stone on stone and they call

366
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it corbelling where they work

367
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the the absolute uh vertical walls

368
00:16:15,670 --> 00:16:12,959
of become

369
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inward inward inward as we go up in

370
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height

371
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and the word is corbelled

372
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and in putnam county alone is

373
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a six or seven town county that has over

374
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300 known stone chambers

375
00:16:34,310 --> 00:16:31,600
wow now is that where the hudson valley

376
00:16:38,069 --> 00:16:34,320
flap happened or is that around that at

377
00:16:40,949 --> 00:16:38,079
all by chance well i i do not know of

378
00:16:43,829 --> 00:16:40,959
the hudson valley flap so yeah it's just

379
00:16:47,509 --> 00:16:43,839
ufo flap in new york in like the 70s oh

380
00:16:48,949 --> 00:16:47,519
oh yes okay as far as ufo related yes

381
00:16:51,749 --> 00:16:48,959
sir uh

382
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yes putnam county and some of the

383
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chambers

384
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they claim uh have

385
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ambient

386
00:17:03,430 --> 00:17:02,320
light that comes into some of these

387
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chambers

388
00:17:08,710 --> 00:17:05,360
and there are some that have found a

389
00:17:09,829 --> 00:17:08,720
correlation to ufos above

390
00:17:11,990 --> 00:17:09,839
so

391
00:17:14,230 --> 00:17:12,000
but i am not knowledgeable and said

392
00:17:16,390 --> 00:17:14,240
subject yeah well you know and i

393
00:17:18,870 --> 00:17:16,400
appreciate you you know

394
00:17:20,069 --> 00:17:18,880
saying that that's how you know um that

395
00:17:22,390 --> 00:17:20,079
you actually care about what you're

396
00:17:24,390 --> 00:17:22,400
doing because you're not you know

397
00:17:26,710 --> 00:17:24,400
um tying things together where you don't

398
00:17:28,470 --> 00:17:26,720
have you know any

399
00:17:29,669 --> 00:17:28,480
you know conceivable reason to do it i

400
00:17:34,310 --> 00:17:29,679
guess but

401
00:17:36,870 --> 00:17:34,320
um you also say it's a possibility so

402
00:17:39,029 --> 00:17:36,880
that's that's correct uh

403
00:17:39,909 --> 00:17:39,039
thank you for picking up on that

404
00:17:41,909 --> 00:17:39,919
yeah

405
00:17:45,510 --> 00:17:41,919
um

406
00:17:47,990 --> 00:17:45,520
so you found also like some

407
00:17:50,390 --> 00:17:48,000
some underground stuff right the did the

408
00:17:53,190 --> 00:17:50,400
tunnels go underground you said like 30

409
00:17:54,789 --> 00:17:53,200
or 40 feet i found uh you said something

410
00:17:55,830 --> 00:17:54,799
about that

411
00:17:59,430 --> 00:17:55,840
right well

412
00:18:01,750 --> 00:17:59,440
down in down in montville connecticut

413
00:18:03,350 --> 00:18:01,760
uh which i've been to this site a

414
00:18:06,230 --> 00:18:03,360
numerous times

415
00:18:07,990 --> 00:18:06,240
it's nicknamed the monster suterain like

416
00:18:10,390 --> 00:18:08,000
over in ireland

417
00:18:13,510 --> 00:18:10,400
and this pseudorane is built into a

418
00:18:14,950 --> 00:18:13,520
hillside and easily goes approaching 50

419
00:18:18,390 --> 00:18:14,960
seed

420
00:18:19,430 --> 00:18:18,400
so they had to take out all the earth

421
00:18:23,430 --> 00:18:19,440
build

422
00:18:26,870 --> 00:18:23,440
the core bells or slab roof tunnel

423
00:18:29,990 --> 00:18:26,880
and there's been one stone slab that's

424
00:18:31,110 --> 00:18:30,000
collapsed and it makes a much easier

425
00:18:33,029 --> 00:18:31,120
entry

426
00:18:36,950 --> 00:18:33,039
and then you crawl in and it just

427
00:18:41,350 --> 00:18:36,960
terminates and into the bedrock wow

428
00:18:45,750 --> 00:18:43,029
uh there's

429
00:18:47,350 --> 00:18:45,760
there's there's one more tunneled one

430
00:18:50,190 --> 00:18:47,360
that i've been in

431
00:18:53,270 --> 00:18:51,830
massachusetts

432
00:18:56,710 --> 00:18:53,280
and uh

433
00:19:01,990 --> 00:18:56,720
that has an 18 foot long tunnel

434
00:19:06,230 --> 00:19:05,190
so interesting or near or or near

435
00:19:10,870 --> 00:19:06,240
a

436
00:19:15,430 --> 00:19:10,880
uh

437
00:19:17,029 --> 00:19:15,440
it's a special stone stone chamber wow

438
00:19:20,390 --> 00:19:17,039
you know huge

439
00:19:22,230 --> 00:19:20,400
i remember you saying um just recently

440
00:19:25,909 --> 00:19:22,240
on this show he said they're mainly

441
00:19:28,310 --> 00:19:25,919
built around bodies of water i mean if

442
00:19:30,710 --> 00:19:28,320
that's not a sign there is a

443
00:19:33,750 --> 00:19:30,720
civilization there that that put it

444
00:19:35,270 --> 00:19:33,760
there for a reason um

445
00:19:36,230 --> 00:19:35,280
you know that's pretty compelling at

446
00:19:38,630 --> 00:19:36,240
least

447
00:19:39,750 --> 00:19:38,640
that's for sure well

448
00:19:43,750 --> 00:19:39,760
i'm

449
00:19:45,990 --> 00:19:43,760
like the point guard of of a a bunch of

450
00:19:48,870 --> 00:19:46,000
people who are there's others like

451
00:19:50,870 --> 00:19:48,880
myself who are doing research and have

452
00:19:52,950 --> 00:19:50,880
accumed the data

453
00:19:55,029 --> 00:19:52,960
and uh i

454
00:19:56,950 --> 00:19:55,039
got carried away with a focus on

455
00:19:58,630 --> 00:19:56,960
megalith

456
00:20:00,470 --> 00:19:58,640
and uh

457
00:20:03,590 --> 00:20:00,480
stone chambers

458
00:20:06,390 --> 00:20:03,600
and uh there's there's just

459
00:20:09,590 --> 00:20:06,400
it's it's the infancy stage of the

460
00:20:11,029 --> 00:20:09,600
unveiling process

461
00:20:15,510 --> 00:20:11,039
call it something

462
00:20:19,990 --> 00:20:17,350
what have you learned throughout doing

463
00:20:22,710 --> 00:20:20,000
all this

464
00:20:24,230 --> 00:20:22,720
how infantile i am

465
00:20:26,230 --> 00:20:24,240
for one

466
00:20:28,230 --> 00:20:26,240
for how

467
00:20:29,590 --> 00:20:28,240
what a burden it is once you start to

468
00:20:31,270 --> 00:20:29,600
crack a nut

469
00:20:33,350 --> 00:20:31,280
of knowledge

470
00:20:35,669 --> 00:20:33,360
and you don't know where to bring it you

471
00:20:38,950 --> 00:20:35,679
don't know who to bring it to and those

472
00:20:40,710 --> 00:20:38,960
you try and try and try to get exposure

473
00:20:42,630 --> 00:20:40,720
and that's why i'm really thankful for

474
00:20:43,830 --> 00:20:42,640
this podcast show

475
00:20:47,190 --> 00:20:43,840
that helps

476
00:20:50,230 --> 00:20:47,200
me verbally express

477
00:20:53,350 --> 00:20:50,240
the truisms as i perceive them

478
00:20:56,070 --> 00:20:53,360
that this is civilization and not

479
00:20:58,230 --> 00:20:56,080
natural i.e the glacier

480
00:20:59,830 --> 00:20:58,240
yeah what have i learned

481
00:21:03,110 --> 00:20:59,840
i've learned that

482
00:21:07,590 --> 00:21:03,120
it's a long gauntlet

483
00:21:10,470 --> 00:21:08,549
it's

484
00:21:13,430 --> 00:21:10,480
as you

485
00:21:17,110 --> 00:21:13,440
quest to get an answer answered

486
00:21:18,149 --> 00:21:17,120
it only leads to more questions

487
00:21:22,789 --> 00:21:18,159
and

488
00:21:28,630 --> 00:21:26,710
it's probably a truism of

489
00:21:31,909 --> 00:21:28,640
many new

490
00:21:33,590 --> 00:21:31,919
or many articles

491
00:21:34,390 --> 00:21:33,600
interests

492
00:21:36,870 --> 00:21:34,400
uh

493
00:21:39,590 --> 00:21:36,880
subject matters there's the word

494
00:21:41,750 --> 00:21:39,600
that wherever we take our intellect it's

495
00:21:42,710 --> 00:21:41,760
the same way for everybody

496
00:21:45,830 --> 00:21:42,720
uh

497
00:21:49,510 --> 00:21:45,840
you you you learn by doing

498
00:21:51,590 --> 00:21:49,520
uh i've got no leadership to lie on that

499
00:21:54,310 --> 00:21:51,600
kind of predates me

500
00:21:56,710 --> 00:21:54,320
so i'm kind of a pioneer

501
00:21:58,470 --> 00:21:56,720
i'm kind of a pioneer out there yeah

502
00:22:00,230 --> 00:21:58,480
that's it that's interesting

503
00:22:02,870 --> 00:22:00,240
um

504
00:22:05,270 --> 00:22:02,880
you know because you i feel like

505
00:22:07,470 --> 00:22:05,280
if it hasn't been done before people are

506
00:22:09,350 --> 00:22:07,480
kind of afraid to try to do it

507
00:22:11,510 --> 00:22:09,360
[Laughter]

508
00:22:13,990 --> 00:22:11,520
yes you know well

509
00:22:14,380 --> 00:22:14,000
i guess that's

510
00:22:15,669 --> 00:22:14,390
being

511
00:22:19,590 --> 00:22:15,679
[Music]

512
00:22:20,870 --> 00:22:19,600
identifies who we are i guess yeah well

513
00:22:23,110 --> 00:22:20,880
it seems like you just let your

514
00:22:25,029 --> 00:22:23,120
curiosity take you

515
00:22:27,909 --> 00:22:25,039
to where you wanted to go in a very

516
00:22:30,310 --> 00:22:27,919
organic fashion which you know to be

517
00:22:32,950 --> 00:22:30,320
honest jeffrey that's what i really

518
00:22:35,430 --> 00:22:32,960
respected about you or do respect about

519
00:22:38,390 --> 00:22:35,440
you is you don't really care what

520
00:22:40,549 --> 00:22:38,400
you know other people are doing or

521
00:22:44,149 --> 00:22:40,559
you know where it takes you you're just

522
00:22:46,230 --> 00:22:44,159
genuinely curious and interested and you

523
00:22:48,549 --> 00:22:46,240
followed that and found some amazing

524
00:22:49,990 --> 00:22:48,559
stuff like i think we could all learn

525
00:22:51,029 --> 00:22:50,000
something from that

526
00:22:53,669 --> 00:22:51,039
um

527
00:22:55,350 --> 00:22:53,679
so i i think that's great and

528
00:22:57,510 --> 00:22:55,360
you know it's in nature i feel like

529
00:22:59,350 --> 00:22:57,520
there's so many hidden treasures out

530
00:23:02,470 --> 00:22:59,360
there in nature about our past and

531
00:23:05,590 --> 00:23:02,480
ancient you know civilizations that

532
00:23:08,070 --> 00:23:05,600
um we just may never know because the

533
00:23:09,590 --> 00:23:08,080
internet the phones everything just

534
00:23:12,710 --> 00:23:09,600
takes us farther away from that

535
00:23:16,310 --> 00:23:12,720
opportunity every day

536
00:23:19,510 --> 00:23:16,320
for sure uh i was also very lucky

537
00:23:22,630 --> 00:23:19,520
before covid hit i was really on my way

538
00:23:24,070 --> 00:23:22,640
to an upward spiral of doing library

539
00:23:26,390 --> 00:23:24,080
lectures

540
00:23:29,990 --> 00:23:26,400
and interested people were having me

541
00:23:34,470 --> 00:23:30,000
come to their house and lecture

542
00:23:36,630 --> 00:23:34,480
it it was really an exciting thing also

543
00:23:40,470 --> 00:23:36,640
i've done twice this

544
00:23:42,310 --> 00:23:40,480
ancient artifact preservation society

545
00:23:45,909 --> 00:23:42,320
excuse me uh

546
00:23:46,789 --> 00:23:45,919
lecture uh once in 2014

547
00:23:49,990 --> 00:23:46,799
live

548
00:23:51,190 --> 00:23:50,000
i drove myself out to marquette michigan

549
00:23:54,070 --> 00:23:51,200
and uh

550
00:23:56,070 --> 00:23:54,080
then the second one was in 2018.

551
00:23:59,190 --> 00:23:56,080
wow and uh

552
00:24:01,669 --> 00:23:59,200
it was highly rewarding with such an

553
00:24:06,310 --> 00:24:01,679
enthusiastic audience

554
00:24:10,870 --> 00:24:07,990
that's pretty good

555
00:24:14,149 --> 00:24:10,880
it is it is for a

556
00:24:16,310 --> 00:24:14,159
for a one-man operator who

557
00:24:20,230 --> 00:24:16,320
throws on hiking boots and

558
00:24:22,710 --> 00:24:20,240
to make such connections was a gift yeah

559
00:24:24,630 --> 00:24:22,720
absolutely let me ask you this um what

560
00:24:27,029 --> 00:24:24,640
do you think is up changing gears a

561
00:24:28,710 --> 00:24:27,039
little bit since we are

562
00:24:30,710 --> 00:24:28,720
you know

563
00:24:33,190 --> 00:24:30,720
i don't think you really

564
00:24:35,190 --> 00:24:33,200
keep up with the the ufo stuff for you

565
00:24:36,710 --> 00:24:35,200
know for better or worse but

566
00:24:39,029 --> 00:24:36,720
what do you think all that's about do

567
00:24:41,909 --> 00:24:39,039
you think that there's any merit to that

568
00:24:43,510 --> 00:24:41,919
do you know if there is can i tell you i

569
00:24:47,750 --> 00:24:43,520
have seen

570
00:24:49,590 --> 00:24:47,760
evidence of ufos you have uh oh yes i'm

571
00:24:54,470 --> 00:24:49,600
very lucky man

572
00:25:00,149 --> 00:24:57,110
things in the evening sky about one two

573
00:25:02,470 --> 00:25:00,159
three i'll go back five years ago easily

574
00:25:04,630 --> 00:25:02,480
in suffield connecticut gazing to the

575
00:25:07,669 --> 00:25:04,640
west between two trees

576
00:25:10,230 --> 00:25:07,679
the sun had set to full

577
00:25:11,190 --> 00:25:10,240
and it was dark

578
00:25:13,029 --> 00:25:11,200
with

579
00:25:15,990 --> 00:25:13,039
no moonlight

580
00:25:17,269 --> 00:25:16,000
and about 20 degrees off the western

581
00:25:21,149 --> 00:25:17,279
horizon

582
00:25:23,110 --> 00:25:21,159
were these two stationary

583
00:25:26,710 --> 00:25:23,120
non-glittering

584
00:25:28,470 --> 00:25:26,720
i said what the dickens is that

585
00:25:32,710 --> 00:25:28,480
and i said what

586
00:25:34,630 --> 00:25:32,720
i i i i was by myself

587
00:25:36,870 --> 00:25:34,640
at the back deck of where i lived at

588
00:25:39,669 --> 00:25:36,880
that time in southfield connecticut and

589
00:25:40,950 --> 00:25:39,679
there and behold were two orbs

590
00:25:44,310 --> 00:25:40,960
way out

591
00:25:46,549 --> 00:25:44,320
above the horizon about 20 degrees

592
00:25:49,269 --> 00:25:46,559
and i scratched my head and went inside

593
00:25:50,390 --> 00:25:49,279
and then compelled to go back out again

594
00:25:53,990 --> 00:25:50,400
and look

595
00:26:00,070 --> 00:25:57,909
i started to say in a prayer

596
00:26:01,430 --> 00:26:00,080
thank you for showing me

597
00:26:04,149 --> 00:26:01,440
that gift

598
00:26:06,390 --> 00:26:04,159
and i looked to the north star

599
00:26:08,630 --> 00:26:06,400
and from the north star came the most

600
00:26:10,870 --> 00:26:08,640
incredible blue

601
00:26:13,190 --> 00:26:10,880
sky blue beam

602
00:26:16,070 --> 00:26:13,200
in a rectangular shape if you can

603
00:26:19,110 --> 00:26:16,080
imagine an elongated beam

604
00:26:20,630 --> 00:26:19,120
but it seemed to have two sides in being

605
00:26:23,190 --> 00:26:20,640
square

606
00:26:25,909 --> 00:26:23,200
and uh or rectangular

607
00:26:28,789 --> 00:26:25,919
and it shot from the area of the north

608
00:26:30,549 --> 00:26:28,799
star a third of the way across the

609
00:26:33,430 --> 00:26:30,559
eastern sky

610
00:26:36,830 --> 00:26:33,440
and terminated on a butt end

611
00:26:38,390 --> 00:26:36,840
as if someone had cut a board

612
00:26:39,350 --> 00:26:38,400
wow

613
00:26:40,789 --> 00:26:39,360
that is

614
00:26:43,350 --> 00:26:40,799
interesting

615
00:26:45,190 --> 00:26:43,360
and so then i really cried i mean i

616
00:26:46,950 --> 00:26:45,200
literally had tears

617
00:26:49,830 --> 00:26:46,960
coming down my face

618
00:26:52,310 --> 00:26:49,840
because that i believe was meant for me

619
00:26:53,909 --> 00:26:52,320
yeah i know what you mean i've been

620
00:26:57,669 --> 00:26:53,919
there

621
00:26:59,990 --> 00:26:57,679
um have you really wow beautiful yeah um

622
00:27:03,510 --> 00:27:00,000
it was pretty intense actually

623
00:27:06,950 --> 00:27:05,269
white

624
00:27:09,750 --> 00:27:06,960
uh things

625
00:27:13,269 --> 00:27:09,760
around uh a dream that came true

626
00:27:14,950 --> 00:27:13,279
um wow that i had uh two years prior it

627
00:27:17,590 --> 00:27:14,960
was pretty intense

628
00:27:20,470 --> 00:27:17,600
um and yeah i got pretty emotional about

629
00:27:22,710 --> 00:27:20,480
it for sure oh yes

630
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:22,720
yeah well that then you and i are

631
00:27:25,430 --> 00:27:23,450
kindred

632
00:27:27,750 --> 00:27:25,440
[Laughter]

633
00:27:30,549 --> 00:27:27,760
we're kindred spirits for having sex

634
00:27:34,470 --> 00:27:30,559
isn't that sweet

635
00:27:36,630 --> 00:27:34,480
wow did anything else kind of um

636
00:27:39,510 --> 00:27:36,640
coincide with that like did you have any

637
00:27:41,669 --> 00:27:39,520
dreams or weird synchronicities or

638
00:27:44,789 --> 00:27:41,679
anything like that i do not recall

639
00:27:46,830 --> 00:27:44,799
anything like that it was just a visual

640
00:27:50,149 --> 00:27:46,840
observation

641
00:27:51,110 --> 00:27:50,159
uh and uh

642
00:27:54,230 --> 00:27:51,120
yeah

643
00:27:57,430 --> 00:27:54,240
i i i can add to this

644
00:27:58,549 --> 00:27:57,440
since a child kind of i've had a psychic

645
00:27:59,750 --> 00:27:58,559
side

646
00:28:03,750 --> 00:27:59,760
and

647
00:28:06,230 --> 00:28:03,760
many times in in in my adult quest for

648
00:28:07,430 --> 00:28:06,240
this megalithic unknowns

649
00:28:11,669 --> 00:28:07,440
uh

650
00:28:14,870 --> 00:28:11,679
would feel things in the woods pull me

651
00:28:16,789 --> 00:28:14,880
pull me in a direction and lo and behold

652
00:28:19,190 --> 00:28:16,799
it would lead me to a

653
00:28:20,070 --> 00:28:19,200
phenomenal standing stone

654
00:28:24,950 --> 00:28:20,080
or

655
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,789
i don't know how to answer

656
00:28:34,470 --> 00:28:31,750
or to come up with a postulation of

657
00:28:35,269 --> 00:28:34,480
what was that but i think it's

658
00:28:38,389 --> 00:28:35,279
just

659
00:28:40,870 --> 00:28:38,399
my spirituality that it's connected to

660
00:28:42,789 --> 00:28:40,880
something much greater than myself

661
00:28:44,470 --> 00:28:42,799
yeah you know that's interesting because

662
00:28:47,990 --> 00:28:44,480
that's

663
00:28:50,070 --> 00:28:48,000
you know more or less what i

664
00:28:52,470 --> 00:28:50,080
have been taking from it as well you

665
00:28:57,269 --> 00:28:54,549
certainly whether it's spirituality

666
00:28:58,950 --> 00:28:57,279
consciousness you know

667
00:28:59,990 --> 00:28:58,960
some sort of connection to something

668
00:29:03,669 --> 00:29:00,000
greater

669
00:29:06,389 --> 00:29:03,679
basically you know surely uh

670
00:29:08,470 --> 00:29:06,399
maybe it's a good time right now

671
00:29:09,430 --> 00:29:08,480
i've got a poem

672
00:29:12,310 --> 00:29:09,440
uh

673
00:29:15,430 --> 00:29:12,320
numerous ones that i've written but this

674
00:29:18,549 --> 00:29:15,440
one particularly pops into my head the

675
00:29:21,029 --> 00:29:18,559
title is tranquility and uh i'm just

676
00:29:23,990 --> 00:29:21,039
going to recite it off my head

677
00:29:25,669 --> 00:29:24,000
tranquility waits for me in the woods

678
00:29:28,789 --> 00:29:25,679
a place of peace

679
00:29:31,510 --> 00:29:28,799
where unanswered things are understood

680
00:29:34,149 --> 00:29:31,520
a place so deep and hidden there the

681
00:29:35,430 --> 00:29:34,159
great spirit dwells in the cool moist

682
00:29:38,710 --> 00:29:35,440
air

683
00:29:41,510 --> 00:29:38,720
the mossy rocks glow with deep forest

684
00:29:42,870 --> 00:29:41,520
green where crippled souls attain their

685
00:29:44,310 --> 00:29:42,880
dream

686
00:29:47,029 --> 00:29:44,320
this place of

687
00:29:49,350 --> 00:29:47,039
peace with wholesome truth is where the

688
00:29:51,350 --> 00:29:49,360
inner spirit is free

689
00:29:53,990 --> 00:29:51,360
cut loose

690
00:29:56,149 --> 00:29:54,000
so kneeling in this forest glenn i

691
00:29:58,310 --> 00:29:56,159
search for things that might have been

692
00:30:01,669 --> 00:29:58,320
for no matter where the road of life may

693
00:30:04,950 --> 00:30:01,679
take me and troubles will always abound

694
00:30:06,789 --> 00:30:04,960
the total peace i find in praying i find

695
00:30:09,590 --> 00:30:06,799
on this holy ground

696
00:30:11,669 --> 00:30:09,600
the babbling brook the chirping birds

697
00:30:14,630 --> 00:30:11,679
are with me in my quest

698
00:30:15,830 --> 00:30:14,640
for the peace i find in this hidden wood

699
00:30:19,750 --> 00:30:15,840
it's pure

700
00:30:20,830 --> 00:30:19,760
it's strong i rest

701
00:30:23,110 --> 00:30:20,840
that's

702
00:30:24,470 --> 00:30:23,120
beautiful thank you for sharing that

703
00:30:26,149 --> 00:30:24,480
jeffrey

704
00:30:27,990 --> 00:30:26,159
yes sir

705
00:30:29,909 --> 00:30:28,000
let me ask you something i think this is

706
00:30:31,190 --> 00:30:29,919
a good question for you because you're

707
00:30:34,389 --> 00:30:31,200
kind of uh

708
00:30:37,190 --> 00:30:34,399
outside of this entire you know

709
00:30:38,789 --> 00:30:37,200
ufo community or whatever going online

710
00:30:40,149 --> 00:30:38,799
and everything right now

711
00:30:41,590 --> 00:30:40,159
um

712
00:30:43,510 --> 00:30:41,600
there's there's a

713
00:30:45,750 --> 00:30:43,520
there's a lot of infighting and back and

714
00:30:47,430 --> 00:30:45,760
forth about what's this what's that and

715
00:30:50,789 --> 00:30:47,440
the government's fooling us or whatever

716
00:30:54,710 --> 00:30:50,799
what kind of advice would you have for a

717
00:30:57,650 --> 00:30:54,720
group of confused people

718
00:31:01,190 --> 00:30:57,660
which is probably humanity in general

719
00:31:03,430 --> 00:31:01,200
[Laughter]

720
00:31:07,590 --> 00:31:03,440
my suggestion

721
00:31:13,509 --> 00:31:10,549
would be to do not be afraid

722
00:31:17,590 --> 00:31:13,519
of the unknown

723
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,110
listen to babblers

724
00:31:25,909 --> 00:31:23,269
go cautiously

725
00:31:28,870 --> 00:31:25,919
and learn as you go

726
00:31:30,950 --> 00:31:28,880
it's what happened to me with the stones

727
00:31:32,470 --> 00:31:30,960
it's what happened to me with all those

728
00:31:34,710 --> 00:31:32,480
wild animal

729
00:31:38,630 --> 00:31:34,720
den sites that i would find in nest

730
00:31:42,389 --> 00:31:40,870
move forward

731
00:31:44,149 --> 00:31:42,399
and and and

732
00:31:50,149 --> 00:31:44,159
keep an open mind

733
00:31:51,909 --> 00:31:50,159
don't be afraid of ridicule if you do

734
00:31:53,190 --> 00:31:51,919
have an encounter

735
00:31:57,350 --> 00:31:53,200
uh

736
00:31:58,870 --> 00:31:57,360
you'll seek a very happy happy end

737
00:32:01,909 --> 00:31:58,880
product i think

738
00:32:03,669 --> 00:32:01,919
yeah that's great advice

739
00:32:05,190 --> 00:32:03,679
well jeffrey it's been a pleasure

740
00:32:07,990 --> 00:32:05,200
getting to know you and looking at your

741
00:32:09,909 --> 00:32:08,000
photos and everything

742
00:32:11,350 --> 00:32:09,919
so is there a place indeed is there a

743
00:32:14,630 --> 00:32:11,360
place people can

744
00:32:17,990 --> 00:32:14,640
um find you or connect with you

745
00:32:25,110 --> 00:32:20,389
a website but

746
00:32:30,470 --> 00:32:28,149
and there's pictorials there but if but

747
00:32:32,549 --> 00:32:30,480
if anyone is sincere

748
00:32:34,870 --> 00:32:32,559
and would like to call me i'd be more

749
00:32:35,909 --> 00:32:34,880
than willing to talk to anybody at any

750
00:32:37,909 --> 00:32:35,919
time

751
00:32:40,070 --> 00:32:37,919
about the truth of

752
00:32:41,990 --> 00:32:40,080
the universe i guess

753
00:32:44,389 --> 00:32:42,000
uh what do you think the truth of the

754
00:32:45,990 --> 00:32:44,399
universe is

755
00:32:48,389 --> 00:32:46,000
that love

756
00:32:49,590 --> 00:32:48,399
is the most powerful

757
00:32:51,669 --> 00:32:49,600
adjunct

758
00:32:54,230 --> 00:32:51,679
or ingredient

759
00:32:57,830 --> 00:32:54,240
to uh

760
00:33:03,190 --> 00:32:57,840
stir into the soup and it seems to be

761
00:33:07,269 --> 00:33:04,789
do you think

762
00:33:13,029 --> 00:33:07,279
this was something that

763
00:33:19,509 --> 00:33:15,990
i believe we are headed

764
00:33:23,110 --> 00:33:19,519
towards a day of reckoning

765
00:33:25,190 --> 00:33:23,120
and love is probably the answer

766
00:33:28,789 --> 00:33:25,200
and forgiveness

767
00:33:31,830 --> 00:33:28,799
yeah uh if if one can attain

768
00:33:33,669 --> 00:33:31,840
for whoever they may be or whoever

769
00:33:35,830 --> 00:33:33,679
it may be

770
00:33:39,269 --> 00:33:35,840
learn to love

771
00:33:43,029 --> 00:33:39,279
and love will get back to you

772
00:33:45,509 --> 00:33:43,039
and love equates to trust and

773
00:33:47,830 --> 00:33:45,519
it's it's a

774
00:33:50,950 --> 00:33:47,840
it's a component that really needs to

775
00:33:53,990 --> 00:33:50,960
manifest more than what it's doing

776
00:33:56,070 --> 00:33:54,000
yeah i couldn't agree with you more

777
00:34:00,789 --> 00:33:56,080
especially now

778
00:34:02,789 --> 00:34:00,799
convey that online like how do you show

779
00:34:05,029 --> 00:34:02,799
love on the internet which is where

780
00:34:07,110 --> 00:34:05,039
everybody lives

781
00:34:10,550 --> 00:34:07,120
wow

782
00:34:13,030 --> 00:34:12,149
you know

783
00:34:15,190 --> 00:34:13,040
well

784
00:34:18,310 --> 00:34:15,200
it's tough

785
00:34:21,589 --> 00:34:18,320
i i i i for whoever is out there and

786
00:34:23,349 --> 00:34:21,599
wants to communicate with the true blue

787
00:34:25,510 --> 00:34:23,359
i'm going to give my phone number which

788
00:34:27,669 --> 00:34:25,520
i have never done before i don't know

789
00:34:31,829 --> 00:34:27,679
but

790
00:34:34,790 --> 00:34:31,839
then i then i well because i am open

791
00:34:37,349 --> 00:34:34,800
i am not a closed book and i do not fear

792
00:34:39,510 --> 00:34:37,359
that's up that's up to you otherwise

793
00:34:42,310 --> 00:34:39,520
right you know i can have people contact

794
00:34:45,030 --> 00:34:42,320
me and i can okay then that's probably

795
00:34:46,869 --> 00:34:45,040
the more apropos route to take okay

796
00:34:48,950 --> 00:34:46,879
yeah but indeed

797
00:34:51,190 --> 00:34:48,960
let it be known that i'm

798
00:34:52,310 --> 00:34:51,200
available to communicate

799
00:34:54,629 --> 00:34:52,320
with

800
00:34:57,589 --> 00:34:54,639
anyone at any time

801
00:34:58,870 --> 00:34:57,599
of the truisms of what we seek in this

802
00:35:03,670 --> 00:34:58,880
planet

803
00:35:05,750 --> 00:35:03,680
which is which is wholesome truth yeah

804
00:35:07,030 --> 00:35:05,760
yeah i think i think i related that in

805
00:35:08,950 --> 00:35:07,040
my poem

806
00:35:11,589 --> 00:35:08,960
you did

807
00:35:13,430 --> 00:35:11,599
do you think maybe the answer is for

808
00:35:14,550 --> 00:35:13,440
because every i feel like everybody is

809
00:35:17,750 --> 00:35:14,560
always

810
00:35:19,349 --> 00:35:17,760
seeking or chasing something that

811
00:35:20,550 --> 00:35:19,359
they don't really necessarily even know

812
00:35:22,950 --> 00:35:20,560
what it is

813
00:35:24,870 --> 00:35:22,960
but sometimes they work really hard

814
00:35:27,349 --> 00:35:24,880
working for something and and they're

815
00:35:29,270 --> 00:35:27,359
not really sure in the ufo community

816
00:35:31,510 --> 00:35:29,280
it's you know trying to figure out what

817
00:35:33,270 --> 00:35:31,520
the enigma is and no one ever really

818
00:35:35,030 --> 00:35:33,280
seems to get there but yep you keep

819
00:35:36,870 --> 00:35:35,040
chasing

820
00:35:38,950 --> 00:35:36,880
you know and sometimes i almost think

821
00:35:40,950 --> 00:35:38,960
that what we're chasing is

822
00:35:43,270 --> 00:35:40,960
um

823
00:35:45,349 --> 00:35:43,280
you know is something that's actually on

824
00:35:47,670 --> 00:35:45,359
the inside of us

825
00:35:50,390 --> 00:35:47,680
you know some sort of peace or love or

826
00:35:54,310 --> 00:35:51,910
well

827
00:35:56,550 --> 00:35:54,320
when i was a young

828
00:35:58,630 --> 00:35:56,560
young fellow

829
00:36:00,870 --> 00:35:58,640
growing up in ellington

830
00:36:01,990 --> 00:36:00,880
i can remember being

831
00:36:05,829 --> 00:36:02,000
8

832
00:36:10,870 --> 00:36:08,390
going out on a winter night and just

833
00:36:13,829 --> 00:36:10,880
being amazed at the stars that would

834
00:36:15,589 --> 00:36:13,839
come the winters were colder than the

835
00:36:17,270 --> 00:36:15,599
skies were clear

836
00:36:19,589 --> 00:36:17,280
and crackled

837
00:36:22,390 --> 00:36:19,599
with the clarity that you don't see much

838
00:36:23,990 --> 00:36:22,400
of today where most of the people live

839
00:36:26,790 --> 00:36:24,000
you've got this

840
00:36:29,190 --> 00:36:26,800
street lights and and and city lights

841
00:36:32,150 --> 00:36:29,200
that really hide

842
00:36:35,270 --> 00:36:32,160
the winter universe sky or even in the

843
00:36:38,710 --> 00:36:35,280
summertime on a clear night

844
00:36:41,349 --> 00:36:38,720
but i later on would realize that each

845
00:36:42,950 --> 00:36:41,359
pinpoint of light is a star

846
00:36:45,750 --> 00:36:42,960
which is a sun

847
00:36:48,069 --> 00:36:45,760
and the possibility of a solar system

848
00:36:50,550 --> 00:36:48,079
revolving around said sun

849
00:36:53,670 --> 00:36:50,560
or even more mind-boggling

850
00:36:56,069 --> 00:36:53,680
the pinpoint of light could be a galaxy

851
00:36:58,310 --> 00:36:56,079
containing billions and billions of

852
00:37:00,790 --> 00:36:58,320
stars

853
00:37:02,390 --> 00:37:00,800
and when you take the mathematical

854
00:37:04,390 --> 00:37:02,400
probability

855
00:37:06,870 --> 00:37:04,400
it's not

856
00:37:08,950 --> 00:37:06,880
g do you think there's life out there

857
00:37:10,390 --> 00:37:08,960
it's like

858
00:37:11,430 --> 00:37:10,400
the answer

859
00:37:17,670 --> 00:37:11,440
is

860
00:37:20,630 --> 00:37:17,680
does it manifest yeah

861
00:37:23,910 --> 00:37:20,640
and if it comes here

862
00:37:25,750 --> 00:37:23,920
well and of course one of the little

863
00:37:27,030 --> 00:37:25,760
quipped was

864
00:37:31,910 --> 00:37:27,040
uh

865
00:37:33,109 --> 00:37:31,920
do we have intelligent life on earth

866
00:37:34,870 --> 00:37:33,119
and

867
00:37:37,990 --> 00:37:34,880
sometimes

868
00:37:41,349 --> 00:37:38,000
we laugh at ourselves or i know i do

869
00:37:44,870 --> 00:37:41,359
and say gee maybe we're not so smart

870
00:37:47,589 --> 00:37:44,880
we may not be it would but i definitely

871
00:37:49,270 --> 00:37:47,599
i i want this to be understood to our

872
00:37:51,910 --> 00:37:49,280
listening audience

873
00:37:54,230 --> 00:37:51,920
we are definitely not alone in the

874
00:37:56,470 --> 00:37:54,240
universe

875
00:37:59,349 --> 00:37:56,480
there are other life forms

876
00:38:02,630 --> 00:37:59,359
that might even live under the antarctic

877
00:38:09,349 --> 00:38:06,950
they might live in mountain ranges

878
00:38:14,630 --> 00:38:11,829
they might live on moons

879
00:38:17,910 --> 00:38:14,640
that are big enough to have

880
00:38:19,030 --> 00:38:17,920
a magnetic field and such and be warm

881
00:38:21,349 --> 00:38:19,040
under there

882
00:38:22,630 --> 00:38:21,359
water and warmth i guess

883
00:38:24,550 --> 00:38:22,640
you know

884
00:38:26,710 --> 00:38:24,560
can make it happen oh it's uh

885
00:38:30,069 --> 00:38:26,720
interesting built there's uh this bill

886
00:38:31,829 --> 00:38:30,079
nelson he's the head of nasa now

887
00:38:35,349 --> 00:38:31,839
and here he's been kind of going out

888
00:38:37,510 --> 00:38:35,359
there on a limb um talking about

889
00:38:40,310 --> 00:38:37,520
you know different

890
00:38:41,270 --> 00:38:40,320
you know basically the possibility of uh

891
00:38:43,349 --> 00:38:41,280
life

892
00:38:47,349 --> 00:38:43,359
on a different planet right

893
00:38:52,390 --> 00:38:47,359
and he literally one of his comments is

894
00:38:56,950 --> 00:38:52,400
there are 300 moons we think have oceans

895
00:38:59,270 --> 00:38:56,960
and if there are oceans there is life

896
00:39:01,190 --> 00:38:59,280
wow yeah so they're getting pretty open

897
00:39:03,589 --> 00:39:01,200
with this stuff

898
00:39:08,150 --> 00:39:03,599
you know it's it's pretty incredible

899
00:39:10,310 --> 00:39:08,160
um one a different clip he said um in my

900
00:39:12,390 --> 00:39:10,320
opinion

901
00:39:15,910 --> 00:39:12,400
you know talking about these

902
00:39:18,550 --> 00:39:15,920
recent like videos that the navy saw or

903
00:39:21,750 --> 00:39:18,560
you know they ran into ufos or whatever

904
00:39:22,630 --> 00:39:21,760
um that went on tv a few years ago

905
00:39:26,390 --> 00:39:22,640
and

906
00:39:27,589 --> 00:39:26,400
asking him what he thinks it is as ahead

907
00:39:28,950 --> 00:39:27,599
of nasa

908
00:39:31,109 --> 00:39:28,960
and

909
00:39:33,430 --> 00:39:31,119
he says in my opinion

910
00:39:36,550 --> 00:39:33,440
um the universe is so

911
00:39:38,390 --> 00:39:36,560
large that i can't fathom

912
00:39:40,950 --> 00:39:38,400
but there is definitely another

913
00:39:43,670 --> 00:39:40,960
possibility versus ours or foreign

914
00:39:46,950 --> 00:39:43,680
technology um that

915
00:39:48,230 --> 00:39:46,960
there is another intelligent

916
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:48,240
life

917
00:39:54,150 --> 00:39:52,970
intelligent

918
00:39:56,950 --> 00:39:54,160
[Music]

919
00:40:00,230 --> 00:39:56,960
well i certainly saw it five years ago

920
00:40:02,790 --> 00:40:00,240
on that summer night yeah uh a lot of us

921
00:40:04,309 --> 00:40:02,800
have eh

922
00:40:05,750 --> 00:40:04,319
uh

923
00:40:08,829 --> 00:40:05,760
there are

924
00:40:10,870 --> 00:40:08,839
things that are popping up like this

925
00:40:12,710 --> 00:40:10,880
sasquatch a quest

926
00:40:15,670 --> 00:40:12,720
yeah i mean

927
00:40:17,349 --> 00:40:15,680
who is this bigfoot gentleman

928
00:40:18,390 --> 00:40:17,359
who are they

929
00:40:19,510 --> 00:40:18,400
uh

930
00:40:21,589 --> 00:40:19,520
yeah

931
00:40:23,030 --> 00:40:21,599
they seem to be there people see them

932
00:40:25,589 --> 00:40:23,040
often enough

933
00:40:26,950 --> 00:40:25,599
myself included i shall not go into it

934
00:40:29,910 --> 00:40:26,960
but

935
00:40:32,069 --> 00:40:29,920
i have seen sasquatch you have

936
00:40:36,829 --> 00:40:32,079
oh yes i am you don't want to go into

937
00:40:42,150 --> 00:40:40,390
he's benevolent

938
00:40:43,190 --> 00:40:42,160
and

939
00:40:45,030 --> 00:40:43,200
uh

940
00:40:49,109 --> 00:40:45,040
a gentleman you might have on your

941
00:40:52,230 --> 00:40:49,119
podcast show is a kiwoni lapseritis a

942
00:40:54,069 --> 00:40:52,240
fine gentleman a dear friend of mine

943
00:40:56,309 --> 00:40:54,079
he's uh

944
00:40:58,870 --> 00:40:56,319
lives out in washington state and has an

945
00:41:01,270 --> 00:40:58,880
incredible

946
00:41:02,630 --> 00:41:01,280
connection with said

947
00:41:09,030 --> 00:41:02,640
bigfoot

948
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,430
but

949
00:41:14,870 --> 00:41:13,829
the image was there the movement was

950
00:41:18,470 --> 00:41:14,880
there

951
00:41:20,390 --> 00:41:18,480
the form the shape the silhouette

952
00:41:21,829 --> 00:41:20,400
moving through the woods

953
00:41:23,589 --> 00:41:21,839
one was

954
00:41:26,309 --> 00:41:23,599
he was bent over

955
00:41:28,470 --> 00:41:26,319
and like squatting down

956
00:41:30,870 --> 00:41:28,480
and another one was

957
00:41:32,630 --> 00:41:30,880
way out on a

958
00:41:36,470 --> 00:41:32,640
winter

959
00:41:38,710 --> 00:41:36,480
kind of a slope it was lack of leaves

960
00:41:39,829 --> 00:41:38,720
i could see way out on a slope in

961
00:41:43,430 --> 00:41:39,839
connecticut

962
00:41:44,550 --> 00:41:43,440
and he was running downward kind of

963
00:41:45,430 --> 00:41:44,560
uh

964
00:41:48,390 --> 00:41:45,440
just

965
00:41:50,790 --> 00:41:48,400
bouncing over rocks with with the skill

966
00:41:53,190 --> 00:41:50,800
of of a uh

967
00:41:55,190 --> 00:41:53,200
of of an olympia

968
00:41:58,230 --> 00:41:55,200
of an olympian

969
00:42:00,550 --> 00:41:58,240
athlete who was incredible

970
00:42:01,670 --> 00:42:00,560
the agility

971
00:42:02,550 --> 00:42:01,680
well

972
00:42:04,470 --> 00:42:02,560
you weren't

973
00:42:07,510 --> 00:42:04,480
afraid or anything

974
00:42:09,030 --> 00:42:07,520
no no no i i

975
00:42:11,990 --> 00:42:09,040
i would

976
00:42:13,829 --> 00:42:12,000
like to meet him actually

977
00:42:17,270 --> 00:42:13,839
i would like to

978
00:42:19,750 --> 00:42:17,280
have him touch me and say

979
00:42:22,390 --> 00:42:19,760
kind things and vice versa

980
00:42:25,670 --> 00:42:23,670
well

981
00:42:28,150 --> 00:42:25,680
i can't wait to talk to you again mr

982
00:42:30,390 --> 00:42:28,160
jeffrey it was a pleasure okay uh

983
00:42:34,069 --> 00:42:30,400
getting to know you and if anybody out

984
00:42:36,390 --> 00:42:34,079
there like they said um like you said

985
00:42:38,710 --> 00:42:36,400
um wants to get in touch with you they

986
00:42:41,750 --> 00:42:38,720
can contact me and i'll veto perfect

987
00:42:45,270 --> 00:42:41,760
make sure they're genuine

988
00:42:47,109 --> 00:42:45,280
so there you go yeah um you stay well

989
00:42:49,510 --> 00:42:47,119
and yeah we'll

990
00:42:52,870 --> 00:42:49,520
we'll we'll speak again you know

991
00:42:54,950 --> 00:42:52,880
okay personally or whatever

992
00:42:57,750 --> 00:42:54,960
god bless you my friend and thank you so

993
00:43:00,710 --> 00:42:57,760
much for the opportunity to connect

994
00:43:02,790 --> 00:43:00,720
with our brothers and sisters yeah uh

995
00:43:05,670 --> 00:43:02,800
thank you so much for for doing this i

996
00:43:06,710 --> 00:43:05,680
really appreciate it you're a good man

997
00:43:09,430 --> 00:43:06,720
thank you

998
00:43:15,410 --> 00:43:09,440
you take care you take care

999
00:43:21,190 --> 00:43:17,829
[Music]

1000
00:43:22,710 --> 00:43:21,200
uh yeah that was mr

1001
00:43:24,309 --> 00:43:22,720
jeffrey woodham

1002
00:43:27,910 --> 00:43:24,319
um good person

1003
00:43:32,550 --> 00:43:30,069
and he had a lot of good messages

1004
00:43:34,150 --> 00:43:32,560
you know um it's unfortunate

1005
00:43:36,230 --> 00:43:34,160
uh spaghetti missed it because he came

1006
00:43:37,750 --> 00:43:36,240
in here and um

1007
00:43:40,390 --> 00:43:37,760
said maybe you get off the internet and

1008
00:43:43,510 --> 00:43:40,400
all that kind of stuff and weird that's

1009
00:43:45,270 --> 00:43:43,520
was the whole topic of of this show

1010
00:43:46,870 --> 00:43:45,280
basically to me

1011
00:43:49,589 --> 00:43:46,880
um was

1012
00:43:51,349 --> 00:43:49,599
get out there

1013
00:43:53,190 --> 00:43:51,359
you know put phones down put screens

1014
00:43:55,829 --> 00:43:53,200
away

1015
00:43:57,109 --> 00:43:55,839
and

1016
00:43:59,349 --> 00:43:57,119
you know don't forget about mother

1017
00:44:01,430 --> 00:43:59,359
nature right

1018
00:44:03,750 --> 00:44:01,440
because i think these days we often do

1019
00:44:09,990 --> 00:44:07,349
we're so into our screens

1020
00:44:16,309 --> 00:44:12,710
um and the life that

1021
00:44:19,510 --> 00:44:16,319
transpires on those

1022
00:44:20,670 --> 00:44:19,520
which oftentimes for a lot of people is

1023
00:44:21,750 --> 00:44:20,680
more real than

1024
00:44:24,630 --> 00:44:21,760
[Music]

1025
00:44:28,470 --> 00:44:24,640
our physical lives

1026
00:44:31,670 --> 00:44:30,710
and i don't know that that's

1027
00:44:32,950 --> 00:44:31,680
the way

1028
00:44:34,470 --> 00:44:32,960
that we were

1029
00:44:36,710 --> 00:44:34,480
um

1030
00:44:37,990 --> 00:44:36,720
intended to live and experience each

1031
00:44:39,670 --> 00:44:38,000
other

1032
00:44:42,390 --> 00:44:39,680
and because of that

1033
00:44:46,470 --> 00:44:42,400
i feel like we

1034
00:44:49,990 --> 00:44:47,670
trying to

1035
00:44:52,150 --> 00:44:50,000
adapt

1036
00:44:53,510 --> 00:44:52,160
so

1037
00:44:55,910 --> 00:44:53,520
uh yeah it was a different kind of

1038
00:44:58,309 --> 00:44:55,920
episode but i wanted to do it because uh

1039
00:45:01,589 --> 00:44:58,319
he was such he's such a good guy

1040
00:45:03,750 --> 00:45:01,599
um and you know what he does and the way

1041
00:45:05,589 --> 00:45:03,760
he lives and his philosophy is just

1042
00:45:07,430 --> 00:45:05,599
beautiful so

1043
00:45:10,230 --> 00:45:07,440
um yeah with that being said i'm gonna

1044
00:45:13,670 --> 00:45:10,240
get out of here i'm gonna do uh another

1045
00:45:15,109 --> 00:45:13,680
show uh later tonight where it's just me

1046
00:45:17,510 --> 00:45:15,119
and i'm talking about

1047
00:45:19,510 --> 00:45:17,520
uh the electromagnetic

1048
00:45:21,349 --> 00:45:19,520
spectrum

1049
00:45:23,750 --> 00:45:21,359
or maybe maybe i won't i don't know

1050
00:45:25,589 --> 00:45:23,760
we'll see if i get a good nap and i want

1051
00:45:26,550 --> 00:45:25,599
to

1052
00:45:27,990 --> 00:45:26,560
so

1053
00:45:29,270 --> 00:45:28,000
um

1054
00:45:32,390 --> 00:45:29,280
but yeah

1055
00:45:34,309 --> 00:45:32,400
we saw what happens when uh ucr has a

1056
00:45:36,870 --> 00:45:34,319
show at the same time as me

1057
00:45:37,829 --> 00:45:36,880
everybody goes over there

1058
00:45:39,430 --> 00:45:37,839
so

1059
00:45:41,030 --> 00:45:39,440
uh but that's okay you can watch the

1060
00:45:41,910 --> 00:45:41,040
reruns over here

1061
00:45:43,990 --> 00:45:41,920
um

1062
00:45:45,270 --> 00:45:44,000
you know if you're out of stuff to watch

1063
00:45:46,950 --> 00:45:45,280
so

1064
00:45:49,589 --> 00:45:46,960
yeah with that being said i appreciate

1065
00:45:52,710 --> 00:45:49,599
it remember tomorrow too we have uh mr

1066
00:45:53,990 --> 00:45:52,720
robert covered on

1067
00:45:55,829 --> 00:45:54,000
um

1068
00:45:58,230 --> 00:45:55,839
and we're gonna do some

1069
00:45:59,349 --> 00:45:58,240
document deep diving so that should be

1070
00:46:02,870 --> 00:45:59,359
pretty cool

1071
00:46:03,829 --> 00:46:02,880
so make sure you connect with us there

1072
00:46:07,030 --> 00:46:03,839
um

1073
00:46:09,670 --> 00:46:07,040
and yeah sunday we have an experiencer

1074
00:46:12,950 --> 00:46:09,680
uh round table with um

1075
00:46:14,550 --> 00:46:12,960
uh jay king and we have

1076
00:46:15,750 --> 00:46:14,560
um

1077
00:46:17,990 --> 00:46:15,760
myself

1078
00:46:19,270 --> 00:46:18,000
uh christopher walford

1079
00:46:24,470 --> 00:46:19,280
um

1080
00:46:26,390 --> 00:46:24,480
and

1081
00:46:27,670 --> 00:46:26,400
who else we got i know we got some other

1082
00:46:29,030 --> 00:46:27,680
people

1083
00:46:30,309 --> 00:46:29,040
but

1084
00:46:32,470 --> 00:46:30,319
the names

1085
00:46:33,670 --> 00:46:32,480
are escaped the other guy's dr sean

1086
00:46:37,589 --> 00:46:33,680
actually

1087
00:46:39,430 --> 00:46:37,599
his name's sean uh dr sean

1088
00:46:41,109 --> 00:46:39,440
i'm gonna screw up that last name

1089
00:46:42,790 --> 00:46:41,119
ashborne hargens

1090
00:46:45,190 --> 00:46:42,800
and linda

1091
00:46:48,069 --> 00:46:45,200
so all of us are going to be talking

1092
00:46:51,510 --> 00:46:48,079
um about a lot of different stuff

1093
00:46:53,349 --> 00:46:51,520
um experiencer issues jay king is so

1094
00:46:55,270 --> 00:46:53,359
good with the words

1095
00:46:57,109 --> 00:46:55,280
um so i'm just going to read his tweet

1096
00:46:59,589 --> 00:46:57,119
actually because it's perfect we'll talk

1097
00:47:00,630 --> 00:46:59,599
experiencer issues and advocacy new

1098
00:47:03,750 --> 00:47:00,640
develops

1099
00:47:05,109 --> 00:47:03,760
developments in the field and much more

1100
00:47:07,109 --> 00:47:05,119
um

1101
00:47:09,990 --> 00:47:07,119
and the doctor that i had just mentioned

1102
00:47:13,589 --> 00:47:10,000
who is coming aboard established a new

1103
00:47:15,349 --> 00:47:13,599
accredited phd program in anomalous

1104
00:47:17,829 --> 00:47:15,359
studies

1105
00:47:22,829 --> 00:47:17,839
pretty cool it's the first of its kind

1106
00:47:27,190 --> 00:47:25,270
so actually i don't know if i would be

1107
00:47:29,990 --> 00:47:27,200
able to

1108
00:47:35,030 --> 00:47:30,000
do this or not

1109
00:47:40,549 --> 00:47:37,589
yeah so like me on twitter instagram

1110
00:47:42,230 --> 00:47:40,559
whatever uh like the video share it uh

1111
00:47:44,549 --> 00:47:42,240
all that kind of stuff i really

1112
00:47:47,349 --> 00:47:44,559
appreciate you guys coming along um if

1113
00:47:49,829 --> 00:47:47,359
you take anything from today it's

1114
00:47:52,170 --> 00:47:49,839
um go outside take a walk

1115
00:47:54,790 --> 00:47:52,180
you know try to um

1116
00:47:57,670 --> 00:47:54,800
[Music]

1117
00:47:59,910 --> 00:47:57,680
try to find yourself in truth

1118
00:48:01,349 --> 00:47:59,920
um in nature for for a second see what

1119
00:48:02,790 --> 00:48:01,359
happens right

1120
00:48:03,829 --> 00:48:02,800
that's what i would do

1121
00:48:06,950 --> 00:48:03,839
all right

1122
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:14,920
appreciate you as always